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Agreed, Joe. But that bring us back full circle. What happens to the kids that will sit behind him for the next two to three years? What were they told? Almost as important, what were their coaches and parents told? I've got an idea in at least one case.

That was the point of my fist post.

Guess we may soon see.

hell they can have 10 QBs but lets be honest... none of them will ever beat us. with the D talent we are brining in from the 2012 and 13 classes we are stacked for years.

Give them AJ McCarron if they want, won't matter.

Total Sidenote: I don't think McCarron is a good QB. He's a good game manager but like all Bama QBs he won't do anything at the next level. Saban just knows how to use his decent QBs and make them shine!

Sims was a 4 star but was the VA # 1 player

The Hoos obviously think he is going there or this conversation would be much different.

Rocco looked very good. Watford never looked even remotely good. But he can shirt this year, but then if Sims comes he has 1? Possible year to play? And Rocco is done?

It was my understanding that we liked Cutler at a couple different positions so I'm not sure.

If I was in charge, I'd probably like to see what I had. Give it a year to work itself out. Problem is, there are only so many reps in practice. I'd like to see Watford start cross training at WR to get him on the field. I think he could be a pretty nice receiver. Looking past Sims for a moment, Lambert is a big time QB. He's really something we haven't seen in a while and that includes Schaub.

Ultimately, I'd like to get back to what we had under George which was guys being in the program 3-4 years before they hit the field. That's probably a little tougher in today's immediate gratification world. But that's part of the business these days too.

I don't see any of this much different than the Tyrod/Glennon situation. Your coaches needed to put the player on the field that gave you the best chance of winning. At some point, they thought that was Glennon. Eventually that changed. Same thing with Leal, Young and Clayton. I'm sure they were told they would be the QB to follow Tyrod. I doubt they ever thought the guy recruited as a TE/WR would keep them on the bench. That's life.

Yeah, Ross is a guy that enjoyed his time here. Sure, every kid wants to be "the guy." But to me, he played the game perfectly. Use your talents to use the University. Compete and what you don't get out of football make sure you get out of the rest of the experience. Get the degree and then if you still have the desire , go get a free masters degree by using your talents again. In a college football world where schools make so much money off these kids, I think the way he's done everything is awesome.

Here's the real question, assuming you do take Sims:

When does he play? If he has 2 left to play in 13 and 14, would he start over 2 year starting Rocco for Rocco's Sr year? If he starts slow you have huge problems. if not he has 1 to play in 14 after Rocco leaves, I can't imagine he's going to UVA for 1 year. In any scenario with Sims, Watford is done at QB and Lambert/Johns only have 2 years to possibly play after a RS this year, and I can't think Lambert came in early for that.

I wonder what Rocco and Mr. Rocco think about this?

Sims to UVA could be a good thing, but it isn't worth the risk considering you have a good QB in Rocco and a stable of other QB's that should be good enough to start in 2 years. This can totally blow up in London's face, and that isn't worth it IMO>

Honestly, I hope Michael is thinking, "I better step up my game." And do you think Danny would turn down Philip Sims if he called up and said, "Coach, I'd like to bring my talents up to Richmond. What do you think?" i doubt his reponse is going to be, "Well sorry Phil, but we just brought in Michael Strauss."

As for Watford, I think you're probably right. He'll have a decision to make. Stay and try and learn a new role or move on. He's the #2 this year because Lambert wants to RS. But after that, you have 3 guys that are probably better QB's than he is.

At this point, UVa doesn;t have the luxury of turning down a QB with Sims talent (if he chooses to come.) especially just so guys that on paper have less potential can have a clearer shot to the field. If you take a QB in every class, somebody's got to sit. We'll just have one or two extra sitting for a bit I guess.

I want as much talent as possible. I'm greedy.

Let them bring Sims in, and immediately get on the phone with Cutler and offer him a greyshirt option.

My stance would be to get sims if at all possible. If that means pissing a few people off, so be it. If you want to compete with the big boys then you've got to assemble the talent first.

People feelings are going to get hurt in this business, no way to keep 85 scholarship kids happy. You take the best players, period.

That goes or UVa and VT. Obviously I'm more of the SEC mindset

yea you take him for sure. then in 2 years you have Sims vs Lambreat (sp?) to dual it out. Both look like the real deal

That is a good way to split a locker room. Sims hasn't been sweating and bleeding with these guys the last couple years like Rocco. I'm sure Rocco's boys will have his back, and if Rocco just takes this, then he's not a competitor at all. If Sims was such an all star he would have been on the field at Alabama. The Alabama QB was barely average for the vast majority of last year.

Sims has whined the whole time. Do you really want that? I guess he'll stop whining if promised the starting job, which no doubt he has been.

Watford, poor watford was promised PT just to keep him away from VT. Now he must move position or be left in the dirt. VT would have developed him. Coulda been the next Tyrod Taylor (even if a poor man's version), but he listened to London's trolling. Unfortunately there are some DB's that also have made/are making the same mistake that VT could turn into NFL starters.