The Tunnel

How so, who else was there out there to get?

"We are done" ? .... says who?

That's just it. Who's elite? FSU and Miami were supposed to be the bell cows. Miami is a joke and FSU-- while improving-- is a shell of what they were prior to expansion.

If you're insinuating VT needs to win more big games, I agree, but I'm not taking lip from a HOOver. Remember, VT was a "throw-in"-- an "also-ran." According to your brethren, it would be years before we won a game....in any revenue sport..... and some wrote that VT would NEVER win an ACC title in ANYTHING.

Why doesn't UVA step up and fill that 50+ year void and win an outright football title? Tell Clemson to stop waiting 20 years between championships. Tell Tobacco Road to take football as serious as hoops. Maybe then things will change.

VT football has definitely disappointed it's own fans at time but has done nothing for the rest of the ACC except step up fill the void left by eveybody else.

We can because we have ESPN in our corner and that honestly may save the conference. ESPN WANTS ND BADLY! The only way they can get them is by having them join the ACC. JS has made our bed with the ACC, it's his end game. If ND stays INDY they are with NBC, B10 with ESPN/FOX/B10, BIG12 FOX/ESPN. The ACC is the only conference with its 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier rights with ESPN. ESPN has a vested interest in keeping the ACC together or they lose VT/NCST to the CBS, FSU/CU to FOX, and UVA/UNC to FOX,B10N. They want to keep the ACC together and I believe that they will give us a ridiculous deal to get ND on board.

If we take our third tier rights and create an ACC Network, grab ND, then we will make just as much money as the B12, maybe up there with the B10 and SEC. ESPN is in our corner here, they don't want the ACC to implode and they honestly might be the strongest ally to have in this whole mess.