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HokieRanger, what are you hearing as far as Clemson to BigXII...

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  • HokiesnBraves said...

    looks like they are loving this whole FSU thing b/c they are quietly continuing discussions behind the scenes while FSU looks like they crazy one. And they are saying the plan is for FSU and Clem to come to BigXII to make a crushing blow to ACC, then get in on possibly GT and VT. So worst case scenario we are courted by SEC and BigXII. not a bad spot and FSU and Clem are the bad guys, we are ultimately doing what we have to do.

    Anyway, seems confidence is high from Clemson front, you hearing same or different?

    thanks,

    I spent time today with a very good source for this type information. There have been 4 ACC schools in contact with the Big 12 this week. One name surprised me quite a bit and that name was VT. I was told FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech and VT have all spoken with the Big 12. No one is close to joining the BIG 12 at this moment but there is some very interesting talks happening. FSU has went farther than anyone else. There are a lot of rumors out there but my source is very close to the wheels that turn and I believe 100% what I was told. I would not be surprised if FSU does leave the ACC. Keep your eyes on what happens the next 3 or 4 weeks with the ACC & Big 12 meetings. My hopes are that the SEC will get edgy and move on us. Time will tell.

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  • Hokie Ranger said...

    I spent time today with a very good source for this type information. There have been 4 ACC schools in contact with the Big 12 this week. One name surprised me quite a bit and that name was VT. I was told FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech and VT have all spoken with the Big 12. No one is close to joining the BIG 12 at this moment but there is some very interesting talks happening. FSU has went farther than anyone else. There are a lot of rumors out there but my source is very close to the wheels that turn and I believe 100% what I was told. I would not be surprised if FSU does leave the ACC. Keep your eyes on what happens the next 3 or 4 weeks with the ACC & Big 12 meetings. My hopes are that the SEC will get edgy and move on us. Time will tell.

    Unfortunately, I can only give this a single up-vote. Thanks very much for your insight!

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  • ahokiesayswhat said...

    I don't get it, we're willing to talk to the Big12 but not the SEC? That makes no sense. You want to talk about traveling costs and not to mention much less academically, oh and subbing UNC for Texas as far as which school the conference revolves around. I really do have zero faith in our administration after reading this.

    ahokiesayswhat, I'm sure we would listen to anyone. In this day and time you cannot afford not to. There's a big difference in talking and joining. As I posted above, no one is close to joining the Big 12. But there is a lot of conversations going on and I'm sure quite a few we never hear about. The main thing is that conferences do want to talk to us. So that means we probably have options if push comes to shove. It will all work out.

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  • Hokie Ranger said...

    ahokiesayswhat, I'm sure we would listen to anyone. In this day and time you cannot afford not to. There's a big difference in talking and joining. As I posted above, no one is close to joining the Big 12. But there is a lot of conversations going on and I'm sure quite a few we never hear about. The main thing is that conferences do want to talk to us. So that means we probably have options if push comes to shove. It will all work out.

    VT is the premier football program in an attractive market that is not controlled by 3 of the 4 power football conferences that said market is viable to. VT's place from Norfolk->Richmond->DC is irrefutable. That puts VT in a highly favorable position for the coming BCS/playoff/conf.expansion proceedings.

    I would kind of dig FSU, Clemson, GT and VT to the Big XII. I mean, it would kick the crap out of the ACC. Haters can bash WVU, but if the Big XII added the 4 power ACC football programs to WVU, it would absolutely dominate the ACC from Florida to DC.

    But I would much prefer VT and Clemson going to the SEC. My God, if VT were the only SEC program from Charlotte to DC........................

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  • I wouldn't be opposed to the Big 12 if we are going with those 3 schools. If you add in WVU and 2 other schools you have a nice little division for football and have some cross opponents with the others. That being said I'd rather go to the SEC.

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  • UT fan here, so I'm sure you'll think I'm biased, but honestly the UT runs the Big 12 talk is garbage. Yes we carry a lot of clout due to our importance to the conference, but we only have one vote. And with the GOR being signed over, we can't leave even if we wanted to.

    Nebraska can say they left because of us, but in reality there were 2 reasons. They knew Missouri coveted a Big 10 invite due to unbalanced revenue (which Nebraska voted for and benefited from). This made Nebraska worry about the conferences stability. Their other concern was that the Texas SCHOOLS were running the conference. CC games were being moved to Dallas and the Big 12 office moved to Dallas. All the schools voted for this and were in favor of it until Nebraska needed a scape goat.

    Colorado thought they were going to the Pac with UT, OU, OSU, A&M, and TT. Once it was rumored that Baylor had to be included in the deal they decided to beat everyone to the punch and leave before they could be left out of the deal. They weren't running from UT.

    A&M got penis envy over the Longhorn Network that we asked them to join in on, but they were too stupid to believe networks would pay for it. Then they decide to use us as a reason to leave when we received $15 million from ESPN. Before that they voted for and benefited from the uneven revenue split, but still used that as a reason to leave.

    Missouri wanted to leave for a number of reasons. The main reasons were conference stability, and unequal revenue splits. When we agreed to equal revenue for Tier 1 and 2 and created stability with the WVU and TCU additions, they used us as a scape goat since it worked for Nebraska and A&M. Truth is they wanted to leave for a while and actually started the whole realignment mess with their desire to join the Big 10.

    UT hasn't been perfect in all of this, but they aren't the villain they've been made out to be. Hopefully FSU, Clemson, and VT will be added to the Big 12 and you can find out first hand.

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  • HoopsCoach said...

    UT fan here, so I'm sure you'll think I'm biased, but honestly the UT runs the Big 12 talk is garbage. Yes we carry a lot of clout due to our importance to the conference, but we only have one vote. And with the GOR being signed over, we can't leave even if we wanted to.

    Nebraska can say they left because of us, but in reality there were 2 reasons. They knew Missouri coveted a Big 10 invite due to unbalanced revenue (which Nebraska voted for and benefited from). This made Nebraska worry about the conferences stability. Their other concern was that the Texas SCHOOLS were running the conference. CC games were being moved to Dallas and the Big 12 office moved to Dallas. All the schools voted for this and were in favor of it until Nebraska needed a scape goat.

    Colorado thought they were going to the Pac with UT, OU, OSU, A&M, and TT. Once it was rumored that Baylor had to be included in the deal they decided to beat everyone to the punch and leave before they could be left out of the deal. They weren't running from UT.

    A&M got penis envy over the Longhorn Network that we asked them to join in on, but they were too stupid to believe networks would pay for it. Then they decide to use us as a reason to leave when we received $15 million from ESPN. Before that they voted for and benefited from the uneven revenue split, but still used that as a reason to leave.

    Missouri wanted to leave for a number of reasons. The main reasons were conference stability, and unequal revenue splits. When we agreed to equal revenue for Tier 1 and 2 and created stability with the WVU and TCU additions, they used us as a scape goat since it worked for Nebraska and A&M. Truth is they wanted to leave for a while and actually started the whole realignment mess with their desire to join the Big 10.

    UT hasn't been perfect in all of this, but they aren't the villain they've been made out to be. Hopefully FSU, Clemson, and VT will be added to the Big 12 and you can find out first hand.

    I think the orange influence in the Big 12 is similar to the blue influence in the ACC. On paper, it all looks fair and square, but in reality, it isn't.

    I want VT in a viable football conference no matter who is in the driver's seat. But I'd prefer one where the power is at least somewhat balanced.

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  • daveinop said...

    I think the orange influence in the Big 12 is similar to the blue influence in the ACC. On paper, it all looks fair and square, but in reality, it isn't.

    I want VT in a viable football conference no matter who is in the driver's seat. But I'd prefer one where the power is at least somewhat balanced.

    At least Texas is a football oriented power. They are greedy just lilke UNC/Duke, but i'd rather someone with the same interests(Mostly football) if they are going to be in a power position.

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  • His only statement that I feel was correct...."UT hasn't been perfect in all this..."
    I cannot understand why they think the football world "MUST" revolve around the Long Horns.

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  • Wow! Ok, so what power does UT have? They have one vote just like everyone else. They have signed over their GOR just like everyone else, so they can't go anywhere. So if they don't get their way, what happens?

    Now the Texas schools together might have some power if they choose to vote together, but that is not the same as UT running things.

    If you are talking about last summer when they were looking at potential conference destinations, of course they had power, of course they were going to have things their way. They were the ones that everyone wanted, and they obviously didn't have to move.

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  • HoopsCoach said...

    UT fan here, so I'm sure you'll think I'm biased, but honestly the UT runs the Big 12 talk is garbage.

    Lol delusional post of the year. You can't make this stuff up. bowroflmao

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    His only statement that I feel was correct...."UT hasn't been perfect in all this..."
    I cannot understand why they think the football world "MUST" revolve around the Long Horns.

    TU's enormous ego comes from the army of people who wear 'horn shirts but never went there. Lovingly referred to as "shirt wearers" by Ags everywhere.

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  • Vt2tamu said...

    TU's enormous ego comes from the army of people who wear 'horn shirts but never went there. Lovingly referred to as "shirt wearers" by Ags everywhere.

    Kind of true, more often referred to a t-shirt fans. A lot of us personally don't hate on t-shirt sips because they bring in revenue and a larger fan base and over time we would love to start gaining on that.

    The quote is

    If you see a guy wearing an Aggie shirt he went to A&M, if you see a guy wearing a Texas shirt he went to Walmart.

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  • No, delusional is thinking A&M will be competitive in the SEC.

    Your statements about t-shirt fans seems like jealousy. Too bad people don't like A&M enough to go purchase a t-shirt when they didn't go there. But, for the record I did attend UT. To bad you couldn't qualify and do the same.

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  • Ha, nice....a UT/A&M battle on a Hokie board! We must be on some ones radar!

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  • HoopsCoach said...

    No, delusional is thinking A&M will be competitive in the SEC.

    Your statements about t-shirt fans seems like jealousy. Too bad people don't like A&M enough to go purchase a t-shirt when they didn't go there. But, for the record I did attend UT. To bad you couldn't't qualify and do the same.

    well, just for the record, I went to A&M for graduate school, (PhD in chemistry). I didn't apply to TU, because the guy I wanted to work for (my research advisor) was/is at A&M, not TU.

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