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Big concern in my opinion.
Pep calls the plays from what I see. He lead the nation in red zone scoring and was top 5 in 3rd down efficiency. Those IMO are the two big things that have needed fixed from some time. VT can put up all the yards they want but if you don't convert 3rd downs and score in the red zone, it won't matter who you have calling plays.
It would be a big concern. Hopefully that is not the case and he does call the plays.
That sounds encouraging. It is going to feel so good watching the Hokies with a new OC and see what happens. Exciting times and it starts with Bama. lol
This. VT's third down offense is a major liability. How many games have we lost over the years because we couldn't convert on 3rd down to extend drives & kill clock. 03 Pitt & Boise being my favorite examples.
We don't convert 3rd downs often because we constantly lose on 1st and 2nd down. This means gaining at least 3.5 yards on 1st and 2nd down, not minus yardage.
How many times was LT in 3rd & 12, 3rd & 16 last yr? LT actually converted a lot of 3rd and California as Jesse Palmer calls 3rd & 10+ plays.
I think David Shaw might call the plays, but I'm not sure.
I think our 3rd and short offense is absolutely horrid. I have no idea why we insist on running a FB pass, to a not so athletic fullback, and throw it to him behind the first down marker. We can't run at all on 3rd and 1 or 2, it's unbelievably bad.
The Michigan game last year was fluke from in terms of total yardage. We extended numerous drives on 3rd and long which hid the fact that we were horrible on 1st and 2nd down, as SonofaHokie may have elluded to.
I saw plenty of 3rd and long this season....just sayin.
Agree. We've had more than our share of games where we lead in yards but lose on the scoreboard. Of course, we've had our share where the opposite is true too.
Yep. The biggest difference between our offense and theirs. They could consistently control the football, but didn't put up a ton of yards. Just grind it out and eat up the clock. They did convert their chances.
We had a ton of big plays, which they did not. This was okay for our total yardage (which wasn't great), but bad for total scoring. It was essentially all or nothing for us. Hopefully our next OC can give us a good mixture of both.
This post was edited by ArksineVT 16 months ago
I'm all for bringing in new talent with a fresh look, but my main concern would be his commitment to the program. VTs lasting success has been based on continuity in the program and looking at Pep's resume he hasn't stayed in one place more than 3 years. I can appreciate upward mobility, but we need some that's willing to build an offensive identity that will last.
I suppose this is the new MO of college football.
No offense to anyone, but we have been utterly spoiled as a fan base with never having to worry about losing our coaches to other schools. The big time schools don't usually hold on to the their best coaches for more than 3 years anyway.
True on the defensive side of the ball
I'll confirm, but pretty sure saw calls plays. I've watched a number of their games and he has the sheet and makes the calls.
I apologize for this comment but cracks me up when people are rah rah for a coach to come in to our program they don't really know that much about.
Not saying he won't be our oc, but Not calling plays is/should be a concern, even if a minor one.
According to his Bio on Stanford's website, Hamilton called plays in 2011. I have no reason to think that he didn't in 2012. Shaw may have had the play sheet, but it doesn't mean he called the plays.
"Hamilton's play calling also contributed to the Cardinal leading the nation in red zone efficiency, as Stanford converted 97 percent (67 of 69) of its scoring opportunities when inside the opponent's 20-yard line."
Let's forget for a second the FACT that he does indeed call his own plays. You are wrong braves. Not sure where you assumed that tid bit but let's move on. We have an opportunity to have a YOUNG and BLACK coach that can actually coach. Do you have any idea how well that could translate into recruiting? Or how about having some youthful energy on the coaching staff? Even if Pep didn't call his own plays, the positives of that hire far outweigh anything as small as not being a "playcalling OC."
the kids we want to pick up want to play for a guy who is going to get them drafted high into the NFL
sounds like you should get on the thoroughbred / Mike London bandwagon
all this racist age-ist talk is getting old... some of the old guys I've worked with will outwork any young guy I've ever worked with.... different era, different work ethic, focused on results not skin color or age
we want the next Percy Harvins to give VT some serious consideration.... like it or not PH made the perfect pick for PH... if Pep thinks like you do that he can compete with Urban Meyer by being black, we should just move on
Dude has an O that is very good and would word reall well with the talent we can supply him w...and he'll go get some talent too.
If on Jan 1st at 5 pm David Shaw is not calling plays then I will apologize to the FACT I was wrong. If he does call plays your caps will be wrong.
If he is our next oc, I definitely want to be wrong.
Honestly, I'm not sure why you are so concerned about it. Play Calling is way over-emphasized, and its not our biggest issue. Execution is the most important thing, and its something we cannot do consistently. We have no identity to our offense.
No one ever claimed that David Shaw was a creative play caller when he was the OC. In fact many people flat out admitted that he was vanilla. But his offenses executed what he called very well. Whether or not Hamilton is calling the plays (which his Bio says he did in 2011), his offenses are well prepared and execute.
If he does or doesn't call his own plays, we'd be better off with him than we are now
The only hypotheticals I would be concerned with would be hiring someone with no experience or hiring someone with a poor track record.
Pep has a very decent resume. He would be a good get imo. I believe he is from NC. He isn't here yet but I've got my fingers crossed for him or someone as good. He also seems to fit into our system.
This post was edited by Leanderthal1547 16 months ago
Way better than dipping into the MAC, WAC or Div II. He has been coaching big boy football and is a young guy with a good ceiling.
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