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Since he's a strong candidate, I figured these quotes would be particularly interesting to those on the board.
"....Hamilton, speaking at a press conference for offensive players and coaches at the LA Hotel Downtown on Thursday, provided an appropriate description of Stanford's offensive philosophy.
"I probably cost Andrew Luck the Heisman when it's all said and done, just because it's important for us to control the line of scrimmage and wear down our opponents.
"We're like the old heavyweight fighters. We want the 15-round fight. We want to wear them down early in the fight, throwing the body punches, and ultimately give us the chance to hit the big play......."
Definitely sounds like a guy Beamer can buy into there - but have to wonder if we have the OL to make this style of play work.
".....Why are Stanford's tight ends so successful?
"They're the quarterback's best friend," Hamilton said. "We've got to find ways to get our playmakers the ball and on third down in the red zone. We have to find a way to create matchups that are in our favor. Tight ends give us an opportunity to create those matchups......"
Again, have to wonder if we have the TE depth to run the 2 and 3 TE sets that a Stanford offense likes to have.
".......Regarding the adjustments that the Stanford offense had to make going into this season, Hamilton said:
"Replacing Andrew Luck, that was tough. But replacing (linemen) Jonathan Martin, David DeCastro and (tight end) Coby Fleener ... replacing those guys up front is always a little tougher than replacing a skill player.
"That was a tremendous challenge as an offensive staff to come up with a way to not screw it up for our defense early in the year until we found out who we were as an offense......"
Our offensive identity issues certainly dwarf any issues Stanford has had.
LAST SET OF QUOTES:
"....Stanford brands itself as a power running team, and there is no greater example than when the Cardinal brings in its jumbo packages, with seven and even eight linemen in on particular plays.
The alignments have another effect. They provide young players with game action.
"It really helps our guys to gain that experience early in their career and become productive players for us," Hamilton said. "If you have an opportunity to play early in your career, then when it comes time to be an every-down player, it's not too big for you. That really helps us.
"We had to employ that sales point in recruiting Kyle Murphy and Andrus Peat, two five-star tackles. `Hey, both you guys can play, and both of you guys can play early......"
Again love the way they get their young OL involved and I'm a fan of their system. That said, Stanford is able to recruit NATIONALLY to land ELITE OL and Jumbo ATH TEs. They are all super smart kids that don't miss assignments and execute at a high level (you don't see their OL whiff on key blocks like Wang or Benedict did at the end of the FSU game). Our depth at 2 of the key slots for a scheme like that (OL and TE) is probably the worst on the team.
Anyway, thought these quotes were interesting. If Pep is the guy, it would definitely be an upgrade to what we've done on offense, but I openly wonder if our talent at OL and TE will make for a bumpy ride until year 3 when the recruiting can match up with the scheme.
Here's the full article from yesterday with all the quotes:
This post was edited by mehulhokie 19 months ago
A couple of things,
First, any new OC is not going to have perfect fits for his offensive system when he first arrives, it's going to take a year or two to recruit the type of athletes that best fit his system.
Secondly, I wouldn't say that Stanford recruits elite athletes. They do have/have had some elite athletes but they do not recruit at an elite level (I consider Alabama and USC to recruit at an elite level). What Stanford has done over the last 4-5 years is develop their talent. If you remember, prior to Harbaugh, Stanford had done little to nothing in the 10-15 years prior.
Stanford hasn't landed elite skill position players outside of QB, but they sure have stocked up on elite OL. VT can take care of the skill positions with our recruiting turf and I'm sure Pep would realize that and see the potential. At least I hope.....
Fair enough on your first point.
However, on your second point...
I said Stanford recruits elite OFFENSIVE LINEMEN and JUMBO ATH - not pure Athletes like Alabama or USC. I would put their OL recruiting the last few years toe to toe with Alabama and USC.
Look at the quotes above, it references the fact that they landed 2 Five Star OL in the same class. When have we ever come close to recruiting or doing anything like that recruiting OL? Its a luxury he's enjoyed at Stanford.
Your points are well-taken, but I have to believe VT's ability to recruit quality linemen would improve with a guy like Pep at the helm. You don't shy away from a coach simply because you don't yet have all the pieces perfectly in place; that's a defeatist attitude.
Fair - but as I stated openly at the end, he's an upgrade and a worthy hire. Never said we should shy away from him. I agree that our ability to recruit quality OL should def improve, but my point was 2 fold here:
1. He's benefitted from a NATIONAL recruiting strategy for OL and TE and one that has not just landed him "quality OLinemen", but some of the best OL in the country with multiple 5 star recruits and 2 OL taken in the 1st round last year (not to mention a TE that went high and some QB named Luck).
2. It's going to take time for our depth in those key spots to align with the scheme we want to deploy. Maybe up to 3 years, and that may outstrip the patience and optimism that accompanies a change like this amongst the fanbase.
Again, to be clear, I think the hire would be a good one if it plays out and I'm def in favor....but the 2 points were ones I wanted to convey and I wonder how we'll get the horses for his scheme to be EXTREMELY successful in the short and longer term.
Then again, would he have done a better job of developing some of the talent that VT has had on the OL? Guys who had multiple offers from other BCS conf. schools but who seemed to underachieve at VT under the tutelage of first Stiney and then Newsome? I don't think our primary issue at OL has been a lack of raw talent (though at times that has been an issue). I think the main issue has been an inability to instill a nasty demeanor on the OL along the lines of what Bud instills in the D, and an inability to effectively teach OL technique in keeping with that demeanor. If he can bring that to the table then we'll be way better off than we have been, even if it takes a while to put the whole puzzle together IMO.
Yep...I buy that.
There is no doubt our OL will require at least 2 years for rebuilding, maybe 3-4....be ready to be in it for the long haul boys
1) Will Pep install the exact same O that Stanford runs or will he run a similar O with his own personal tweets? And will he install an O that is best given the players he inherits at VT and then recruit to his preferred style of O? I have to believe any good OC will first install an O that best fits his inherited players. With our OL, I don't see the Stanford O from day one.
2) If Pep places so much importance on OL and TE, I see him wanting his own asst coaches in those two positions.
3) Since Pep has been both a QB and WR coach, which position will he choose to coach at VT? Does he go back to WRs and bring in a QB coach? Or does he want to stay as a QB/OC and bring in a WR coach? Seems like the move with Sherman opens up this question.
Stanford is currently ranked #8 going into the Rose Bowl, a win and they likely finish top 5.
I do agree that there is a rebuilding effort needed up front and at TE if Pep is the guy and we want to do what Stanford does.
That said, between Miller, Farris, Gibson, Benedict, Acree, Shuman, Conte, Arkema, and Tarashke I feel like we could field a servicable OL if they are coached up well. A really good OL coach might even get a freshman like Pfaff in the mix. I also feel the same about Malleck, Jackson, McCray, Perez-Means, and Redman at TE.
I realize that this group probably isn't going to be dominant. They are certain to struggle against Bama, but who doesn't. But I think they are talented enough to be much better than what we have had at VT recently. I'm really hoping its going to be Pep, and curious to see how we will do against teams like Clemson.
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