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So my question is regarding Mark Shuman, not John. After being very highly recruited, Mark has seemed to be quiet thus far in his career. I realize that he is still young, but what has the holdup been this far? Strength, the mental aspect, mean streak? I am hoping Coach Grimes can get Shuman and Gibson to where they should and could be. Obviously mark (and Laurence) have the tools to be successful at VT or they wouldn't have had so many offers out of High School.
Also, a question was sparked in my mind while thinking about OL recruiting in general. When was the last time (if ever) that a true freshmen OLineman started for Beamer? I realize this is VERY rare and tough to do, but has this ever happened at VT? Also, has a true freshmen OLineman ever been an All-American? That's would be crazy. Maybe a guy like Orlando Pace?
Sergio Render started as a freshman. Nice guy.
DeChristopher was a r-Fr.
Was a little lazy off the field.
Mark,s father (coach Shuman) had a "come to Jesus" meeting with Mark near the end of the season, and Mark is commited to rededicating himself to football and narrowing his focus. Let's see where that goes. The talent is there.
I will not judge any young olineman that didnt see the field in past 3-4 years. Hopefully Mark steps it up.
Yea, Mark's always been a player who needs a kick in the butt every now and then. Hopefully the coaching change reinvigorates him.
With the new offensive staff in place, hopefully we are going to see major improvements in both individual player performance and in getting the "right" players on the field.
To me, there has been nothing more frustrating the last few years than watching our offensive coaches play a few of the same players that got eaten alive play after play, and then watching the coach send them back out for more on the next series. Case in point, our blocking TE played all year when he hardly blocked a soul all year. Now, whether he was hurt or not, shouldn't have been an excuse. We had plenty of backup dressed TEs on the bench who never played and never got a chance. You can't convince me that at least one of those backups wouldn't have done better than No blocking at all or getting pushed back into our backfield play after play on critical downs.
Who on here hasn't cussed and fumed about our Left Guard play over the last several years. It has been downright abysmal, but yet the same kids who struggled mightily kept going back in again and again and continued to struggle. For the life of me, I can't understand why a Gibson hasn't been given a chance. Some say it is because he hasn't mastered the offense. And I say, even if Logan has to tell him who to block coming out of the huddle, he can't do any worse than who was playing. More importantly, he might have been better if just given a chance. I guess we will never know. We all heard last year that Painter couldn't play and wasn't ready. Well he got the chance this year and played well for someone that never got any playing time until this year. How much better could he have been this year if he got the chance to play some last year. But our coach said no. Are we looking at the same situation with Shuman?
I kept hearing the former coaches saying it was a "trust" issue, that "he can't play until he earns our trust." I don't understand this either. Every man that has ever played the game of football has made mistakes in games. Some more than others. Every starter on our team has made mistakes, some critical. Every star player at VT has made mistakes. I know these players have earned the coaches trust. So why is it when a young inexperienced player makes a mistake, he hasn't earned our trust? That seemed to be a convienient excuse for not playing someone.
I for one am hoping above hope that our new coaches will not employ the same failed coaching manuevers of our outgoing coaches and play the kids that deserve to play. I have said it on here before but I am hopeful the new offensive staff brings in a new philosophy that says we are looking for smart nasty players that follow instructions and play like we want. That size is the most overrated element of good offensive line play. Tenacity, quickness, footwork, and hand placement are more important. You don't have to fit a mold of 6'6 310 lbs to play tackle and you don't have to have 3 years of backup experience to get in a game. That's a winning proposition.
Fwiw, I've heard that shuman was being kept off the field because of relationships rather than effort/talent .. I expect them both to contribute this season, if not start.
I'm no film or OL expert but after seeing David Wang this past season, I don't expect him (no offense to him) to start another game in his career, barring injury. He is just too small, among other things. Not saying he won't play, just think that he will fall in the depth chart
Maybe that coach should know alot DID NOT trust him.
Wang, Eric Martin... may be great people but i agree there must have been better options. Tweedy was touted as not ready for a long time and he made more plays in a few starts than jgw made in years.
Read the Doughty Article on Mark and John Shuman- will give you some clues as to what is going on !!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like he doesn't take coaching/criticism very well.
This ^^ predominately. He has the tools.
If Grimes can't motivate him then nothing will.
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