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and before I type the rest of msg...this is NOT an attack on anyone. Just curious as to opinions.
Hite was a RB in college and HS and spent whole career caching RBs. Shane obviously did not. Our lack of running production last year was no doubt a big part of OL play. However, what are your thoughts as to Shane as RB position coach versus someone who has played the position?
Was there any thought of shifting Shane to s/t and hiring another RB coach?
and again, NOT saying Shane won't end up being outstanding this year w/ RBs...just curious. thanks
This post was edited by HokieNC 15 months ago
Its a legit question IMO. Im willing to give Shane a mulligan for last year with the thinking that if next year we split carries between 4 guys and never let 1 become the workhorse I take that mulligan and stomp on it. I think SL will make SB a better rb coach hoepfully with scheme.
Further to the issue of RB, I think Coleman should be the number one guy going into the Spring. He's proven he can have breakout performances, hits the hole extremely hard, did a pretty good job in blocking. I would take him over any of the other RB's currently on the roster.
Yeah I don't know...I'm hoping one of the bigger back like Edmunds can be our main ball carrier. Coleman can be electric but he seems to go down way too easily. Maybe he can bulk up a little more during the offseason but I think he's better suited to be our 2nd running back for a change of pace.
great question, mabe he's not the best person for that job. wasn't he a WR/ST guy?
Until I see Edmunds for myself i'll take Coleman over any of the other RB's we had this past year no questions asked. I don't know how many times I've seen situations throughout football where coaches and fans brag about young players only for them to fizzle out when they start actually playing. I'm not saying this is Edmunds, its just more of a let him prove it before you give him the job.
I agree. Having multiple (capable) backs is a blessing. It would be nice to see some two back sets or at least have one of the guys in the slot. JC's a guy I love having the ball in space....and it sounds like Edmunds is that type of guy too. I wonder if SL is one to run RB screens.
Coaching Rb's is more of the let the Running backs run type of coaching imo. Yes you still have techniques, blocking, blitz pick up, holding the ball and all that. But the actual RUNNING part of the position... that really relies on Natural abilities. You either have it or your don't. Hite always said he learned through the years that it's better to not over coach the running aspect of the position. I'm sure that Shane can handle the coaching end of it...but he needs to have the horses. I believe the best horse we had last year was redshirting...which always seems to be the case.
This. How soon we forget that we had a 1600 yard rusher 2 years ago. Shane's fine, just didn't have much to work with this past year.
This year could be even more of a quagmire if we let it as it relates to rb's. We have potentially Holmes, Coleman,Edmunds, Reid, Mangus,Wright, and Harris. Now surley some of these guys will end up in other positions but how do you know which of this group should be the rb's of choice. We had trouble last year trying to come up with the order of play and it lasted throughout the entire season. Considering that we shouldn't do that again how do you really know who to play?
First of all, you can't just move Shane to ST coach and hire a new running backs coach. We are already at our max number of coaches.
Secondly, I don't think you can judge Shane on last year's performance. WADR to JC Coleman, who is going to be a fine running back by the time he leaves here, he was not ready for D1 action last year. Neither Michael Holmes nor Tony Gregory are/were D1 backs. Scales was a former walk-on who was hard nosed, but he wasn't the type of back we're used to having, or the type of back you need when your O-line is awful. It's very hard to establish a rotation when guys are so inconsistent from game to game and nobody wants to step up and take the lead.
I don't disagree with you about him being the number one guy but he definitely struggled to hit the correct holes when they were actually there.
Out of the gate this spring, I agree with you but there are a lot of people standing in line.
I agree 100%. Good players make the job of coaching alot easier. Shane will be fine.
This post was edited by Brian76x2 15 months ago
I don't think he has the job sewn up by any means.
No one saw Ryan Williams either. All he did was run for 71 yards and 2 TDs in his first career start...against Alabama.
I do like JC and think he will be good, unless our offense starts to look like Oregon's did, we need a slightly bigger every down back. IMO
JC would be pretty awesome if used like DeAnthony Thomas, backfield, slot, motion.
That is what you call proving it.
Not surprising for a true freshman. All I'm saying is, based on his performance last year, he has earned the position going into spring ball. Watching JC in high school and one year at VT, he's gonna give maximum effort no matter the circumstances.
Yep I remember Billy saying that he only coached the running backs up until the time they got the ball. The rest is really up to them. You can't really coach vision and what not that makes a running back great. Guys like RW just have it.
What would be pretty cool is if the guy calling the plays this year actually knows which RB is going to be running the ball.
This post was edited by VTSmitty 15 months ago
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