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Has Lebron ever defeated the Monstars? Didn't think so. Advantage MJ
MJ in his prime over anything Lebron has shown to date. It's a closer call this season than it ever has been before, but I'd still take MJ.
No one can ever do what Jordan did because its something that can only be done once. Jordan took a regional game and made it a global spectacle. No one will ever be able to do that again. Jordan will also always be one of the most successful players at any sport that has two nuts and has never used PEDs. With that being said though Jordan never played defense as well as lebron. Lebron can guard anyone at any position and can shut them down. Jordan could only guard a 1,2 or 3. Jordan never had lebrons vision and selflessness. Jordan is not as big or as fast. Lebron is the most talented player we have ever seen but currently not the most successful and will never be the one who had the biggest effect on the game.
Jordan is the GOAT. After his career is over LeBron may very well give him a run for that title.
Someone earlier mentioned court vision and MJ was magnificent in that regard, but the title for court vision goes to Magic Johnson. Limited athletically compared to MJ or LBJ, Magic could make everyone around him play like all stars. he saw things BEFORE they happened.
As for who I would want to take that last shot, I do agree with MJ, but a close second was Jerry West, the original Mr. Clutch. He was phenomenal on last second shots.
This post was edited by TheCount42 14 months ago
Jordan. Better competitor, player, leader. Also MJ didn't have a 'decision'
I have to disagree with that. Lebron can guard more positions than MJ. That makes him a more versatile defender, but not necessarily a better one. Lebron also can play very good, even smothering defense. But Jordan brought an intensity to playing defense (and offense) every second of every possession, the full length of the court, that nobody has ever exceeded. Lebron isn't lazy on D by any stretch and he can really smother people when he's motivated to do it, but he doesn't consistently play D with the intensity that MJ did.
9 NBA all-defensive first team selections
1 Defensive POY
3x led the league in steals
4 NBA all-defensive first team selections
0 Defensive POY awards
0 years leading league in any defensive category
Of course there are those who would argue that Russell or Chamberlain shouldn't have to take second place to either MJ or LBJ in either scoring or defending.
MJ. He redefined the game, was a cold blooded assassin, and it was just beautiful watching him play. This is coming from a Knicks fan.
its close on defense, jordans steals came from stealing the ball from guys like joe dumars and craig elho or terry porter players didnt have as many dribbling skills during that era as they do now and the refs didnt allow carrying and traveling as much as they do now. i would say most players today have way better handles that they did during that era. not to take anything away from jordans defense he was one of the best in the league during the later part of his career.
Eras are not as different as you think. Earl Monroe may have been the best ball handler ever and he was an "era" earlier. The game changes, but great players in almost any "era" would be great today. Does anybody think Wilt or Dr. J wouldn't tear it up today?
MJ, and it shouldn't be a discussion yet.
MJ willed his team to 6 championships. Lebron couldn't help but win a championship because he is a freak. We need to postpone this discussion until Lebron wins at least 3 rings.
MJ and it's not even close.
I think some people think there are better ball handlers today because the game has gone smaller in general. There probably is better ball handlers at the 4 and 5 positions, but the three-point game has produced numerous 6-4 to 6-7 shooters will zero ability to make their own shot. They basically live on the weak side and wait on the isolation play.
MJ is the best ever and its not even close!! MJ is MJ and then there is everyone else.
Wilbon nails it in this article, IMO:
Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hy!
Tech, Tech, VPI
MJ...with no discussion, MJ had that "It" factor where LJ is just a really good basketball player
Lebron is about #5. Between the ears he is about #200, and in the heart, maybe top 50.
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