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Seems he took a few steps back this year. Some of it can be chalked up to the overall offensive weaknesses. But he was not close to being what everyone expected. What's the consensus on LT3? What were the issues he was having, can he fix them? Does Leal challenge him for PT next year? Is there really any chance he goes pro this year?
I'm asking because I got to watch very little of the games this season - and I stepped away from this board once it became meltdown town. Good to be back. TIA.
I'm going to try to respond to this with my Maroon and Orange glasses off. IMO it was a confidence/trust issue. He can say in interviews that he was confident in his self and teammates all he wants but until you step on the field with the pressure to preform you just dont realize it. I do believe that the whole offense lost confidence. Micheal Holmes is not a 5 star back but he lost confidence running the ball which made him studder hitting the holes etc. Can't say I blame him getting hit in the backfield every play.
IMO Logan was struggling with his confidence and once that started to happen it just snowballed.
I think it was the perfect storm of everything. Bad inside o-line inconsistent receivers, young running backs, poor situation play calling, and most of all Logan just trying to do to much! LT seemed to develop some bad mechanical habits that were not corrected that were causing him to be very inaccurate.
He threw off his back foot a lot, some was because of pressure in his face up the middle, but sometimes he did it with a good pocket! So it's hard to say whether that was him or the o-line, or lt3 just playing timid which isn't what he is about! Another mechanical flaw was on his outside throws. I saw a lot of film with him leaving hips way open, this is a simple fix or at least it should have been. But it never was corrected! That's on the coaches!
One knock on lt that is on him is e wasn't going through progression on most plays. He has done this even in 2011. He tends to lock on his pre read receiver and if it's not there it generally resulted in a scramble or getting sacked! This is the area I worry. He should have been showing improvement here throughout the year! But I didn't really see it!
In the end I think that a coach working with him that has a clue will greatly benefit him, I believe Logan will be the unquestionable starter going into next year. Logan has such amazing potential that when he puts it together he is a top five pick! But he has to do this consistently, if you see him struggle again like he did this year you will definitely see Leal! Because if it gets to that point that it did this year you have to at minimum get Leal experience for next year!
But I believe we see a different lt3 next year. And this year will just be like a bad bad dream!
I don't think we will ever be able to comprehend how much Danny Coale and Jarret Boykin meant to both Tyrod and Logan, but trust me it made a difference. His most reliable targets, Knowels and Fuller, for some reason were not on the field as much as Roberts and Marcus who took plays off.
I agree with a lot of the above. Lot of factors, but if Logan comes back, he will be strong. His season is what it is, but here are some interesting facts about where he stands as far as VT quarterbacks.
Most offensive yards in a season last year
With 217 yards against Rutgers would become the first VT QB ever to have two 3,000 yard seasons
Should be less than 1,000 behind Tyrod for VT's career passing yard record going in to 2013
Likely will be the leading career passing TD leader if he returns
If he does get the 217 yards against Rutgers, and does return, he has a chance to pass for 3,000 yards in 3 consecutive seasons. If I heard correctly, Aaron Murray just accomplished that, and was the first QB in the SEC to ever do so.
While Logan struggled a bit this year, he is in the process of re-writing the VT passing record books.
Yeah, very true. Boykin and Coale caught everything they should have caught. They caught a lot of passes that you couldn't fault them if they didn't catch, and both caught some that nobody should have been able to catch.
This year, a lot that should have been caught weren't. There were very few catches of the ones you couldn't fault them for missing, and as far as extraordinary catches, very very few.
The best catches I can recall were the game winner by Knowles in game 1, and some of those catches that Fuller made in crunch-time situations in heavy traffic.
Lets all hope he does come back next year. I attribute something's to him but not all. Logan in my opinion but a lot on himself this year and to me he was let down with the results. He has every ability to be great and if we could bring someone in to work with him he will without a doubt leave tech as maybe the best QB ever to come out of Blacksburg and go on to a bright career in the NFL. He works harder everyday to get better and I know his numbers didn't show he won us 3 games this year himself. With a little more time and a better scheme on offense he will have a year next year like no other. Keep in mind he is losing some receivers but hopefully we can establish a run and with Zack going to TE the chemistry should be off the charts. I just wanna say that I did ask Santa for Logan to decide to stay and to get a better offensive scheme ( coaches or play calling) lets hope he gets my letter.
I will say Dyrell made a couple big catches. I remember one he dove, got clocked like a mack truck hit him, helmet goes flying off, and he held on to the ball. 2 plays later a pass went through his hands and bounced off his face mask. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times
If I were faced with a new line,TE, WR's and RB's my game would suffer a lot more than his did. He can still hit 3000 yds passing and he has already eclipsed his rushing by a long shot. I thought under the circumstances surrounding him on the field and on the sidelines he did a very good job. Hope he comes back next year cause we will sure need him.
Dyrell reminds me a lot of Rod Gardner when he played for the Skins... will make an unbelievable grab then drop something routine; not so much an effort thing as it is a concentration thing IMO. I like Dyrell and felt like his injuries may have set him back more so than anything else.
Honestly, I've felt our offense never really did anything to get in a rhythm early in a game and early in the season. They always seemed like it was a fight for yards or just to get organized and I can't imagine that helps with a QB's performance. Above all, what I hope for next year... that we work on establishing rhythm and identity on offense... I think that alone will improve Logan's performance. And for god's sake... stop that hurry up to the line, look at the D set and look to the sideline for the play call stuff...
IMO we need an identity, and staff members who can coach our boys to be successful. We definitely lack identity, and IMO 2-3 coaches haven't held their own.
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