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nm. sorry guys, it was an honest question and I'm not an undercover hoo. I love the hokies almost more than my wife
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by HokieHigh 12 months ago
too many reasons to go into. a lot of the guys on your list are still young, so it's way too early to even discuss. A lot of people on that list had position changes that hindered them IMO though.
edited out OP quote
This post was edited by knawaz03 12 months ago
You may want to go ahead and delete that or you will officially cause a firestorm.
A couple of those guys are way young to judge
One is about to get drafted in the nfl
A couple grade issues
Either way, your post is going to be considered borderline undercover hoo. Especially making it a public thread.
This post was edited by 423PheasantRun 12 months ago
haha, looks like it's already happening with the dreaded *dvs*
but seriously, I can't ask that question? I know it happens a lot with other programs, and obviously Tyrod, WIlson, R williams, and Hosley all balled out so there are some that succeed, but I was just wondering if anybody thinks there is anything else to it?
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by 7h0ki3 12 months ago
like others have said, there are a ton of reasons.
a simple one is probably unrealistic expectations from us...95% of the commits we get and it even happens with a lot of walk ons, people say "this guy will be a star", "this guy will be a monster", and on and on.
think how many guys who get drafted in the NFL and have "bust" careers...and that's after making a name for themselves at the collegiate level....
in this case we are talking about 17-18 year old kids, and assuming because VT and other schools offered, they are going to be great...
good pt about bust from college to NFL...
I did delete my post but people keep quoting it, so it's out of my control now. Lociento Amigos! DV AWAAAAAAAAY!!!
Because recruiting is not an exact science. Recruiting analysis, recruiting assessment tools and opinions of gurus are great but no one knows what is exactly is going to happen when some of these players make it to college. Unfortunately upon arriving to college, some of these guys are going struggle academically, get injured, struggle with transitioning from high school to college, and I hate to say it but sometimes a player may be overrated. I remember about 3 or 4 years ago when I was a writer for Rivals (Hokiehaven.com) and I said a few players that everyone else was so high on, I felt were overrated and a few fans disagreed. Even though I was eventually right about those players, but at the end of the day, no one really knows. Whether you are a former player, intelligent and knowledgeable fan, guru, or passionate fan, we just don’t know how some of these kids are going to perform at the next level.
In regards to Caleb, he is learning how to play the WR position. With some guys it just takes time. Also, I am pretty confident that if you took a look at a every college football program, you will find players that struggle or disappoint (Not syaing that Caleb is a bust)
Did you hear Hoo got arrested? Thomas Jefferson would be proud!
Good explanation. Thanks for the positive feedback Crabberhokie757! I love the dialogue so much more than the silent downvoters.
It's a reasonable question, but I have a few problems with it. I would use examples of people that are gone, such as Aaron Brown. No clue on him, very highly rated, just didn't pan out. Painter will be drafted, Gibson and Shuman may be starting this year. Harley could absolutely be a beast. MCcray as well. And 7 or 8 days of practice, and Caleb is a bust?
2nd, you would have to have some kind of criteria as to what a bust is. I don't think anyone that contributes for several years and then starts for a full season could be labeled a bust.
And without comparing it to other teams, how do you know how we are doing?
Well I specifically refrained from using the term bust wholeheartedly because I agree with your second paragraph, which is why I said "bust a little bit" lol which taken out of context sounds totally amazing
There are so many reasons that some kids can step right in and make an impact while others take longer to develop to a dominant level, and some never get there at all. Several reasons for this have already been mentioned, but I will attempt to give my 2 cents, fwiw.
Some kids mature faster than others, both physically and mentally. The difference between HS and D1 college is like single A to MLB in baseball, both in the phyicality of the game and the complexity of plays that both the offense and defense run, and it may take some more time to adjust to that than others.
Some kids may adjust faster because they HS programs they were in run similar, but simpler styles to what is being run at the colleges they are at, while others are having to learn from square one.
Some adjust beter to college life in general than others, and getting adjusted to the academic is daunting enough for many students, that are not athletes.
Some recruits have dominated in HS simply from pure athleticism, but once they get to college, they are going up against similarly talented athletes and have to learn proper technique, which can be challenging when you have to unlearn habits you have had since pee wee league.
Some have injuries that hamper them for along time even after we may think they are fully healed, some get switched to different positions that they have to learn, some kids learn differently than others, so one coach that is developing one recruit quickly with his teaching technique,may not be effective with another recruit. Some recruits have more desire or heart than others, etc, etc.
IMO though just becaue we haven't heard much about Caleb, it doesn't mean anything this early. It was said that he almost played as a true freshman.
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