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Recently I had to read a short book for my job about the 5 dysfunctions of a team. Looking back on the read I see all the dysfunctions currently in the program. So I ask you all, has the Program/Team become dysfunctional?
5 Dysfunctions of a Team:
1. Absence of Trust - IMO the players/fans no longer trust the ALL of the coaches.
2. Avoidance of Accountability - "The Players didn't execute", "4 or 5 plays away" Does Frank hold the coaches or himself accountable? How about the special teams last night? Who is responsible for preparing them?
3. Lack of Commitment - The issue of if CFB is really committed to filling that trophy case has been raised several times on this board.
4. Fear of Conflict - IMO Frank is loyal to a fault and does not want to fire his friends out of fear of conflict with them.
5. Inattention to results - The wins have come over the years so I don't ignore those results. But how can you ignore the offensive output, OL development/recruiting and QB development over the past 5-10 years? The results are not there.
This post was edited by JKHokie 20 months ago
I think it is ... interesting points and post.. I can not harp enough on the lack of accountability that makes me so dern frustrated. no different than in any other partnership.. marriage, profession.. if you refuse to accept ownership of any problem, you will never move forward and overcome problems and adversity. reason is they work on symptoms not the root so they just spin their wheels
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I've read that book too. Good parallel.
This post was edited by Hokie Scrubs 20 months ago
i agree, i also think it's dysfunctional in the sense that the coaches think the program is better then it is, harp on the 10 win season thing too much. i think that trickles down to the players, who might think they are better than they are.....
BUT the biggest thing is the overall all lack of preparedness, execution, and attention to detail with this team which comes right down to coaching. Special teams blunders, head scratching play calling, poor clock management, periods of pure ineptness, fumbles at the worst possible times, missed blocks, lack of intensity/poor effort at times, dropped passes, etc, etc, etc.
Yes. You can see issues with all 5 elements you presented within our coaching staff and team.
This staff needs a serious shake-up and makeover, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Beamer needs to reassign ST's as well. He ain't getting it done there.
Sorry.....meant to be under the original post.
This post was edited by Hokie Harv1 20 months ago
One thing I am really disappointed in is our coaches in ability to adapt. If you have a system you should recruit for that system but when your team starts practice you need to coach to your teams strengths and weaknesses.
The coaches constantly say that some guys are mentally not ready to play early in their careers. They say guys are missing assignments. At this point these two things are the only constant with the team. I think the O coaches need to adjust and adapt the system or plays calls. They need to dumb things down and make it simple. If every Olineman isn't ready to play until year 4 and 5 then is the issue the players or the system?
I really don't see a point in Beamer remaining the HC anymore, what does he have to offer except for his laurels?
R u in a leadership class, just finished that book to my job
This is the only relevant post of the whole board, all the other threads are not addressing the real issues.
Yeah I am. Through the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce.
Also, with #4 it explains why he may be hesitant to bring in someone new from the outside. Frank doesn't want anyone who may oppose or stand up to him. Seems to only want "yes men" (especially on offense).
Underrated post. If you've ever listened to Coach Cav speak - it's just amazing the amount of respect that these coaches give to Beamer. They are an old school Mafia, respect-driven organization. If you show Frank respect, and I mean big time respect, he'll reward you with loyalty.
Something to be admired there, but in this case the absence of healthy-conflict has led to where we are today. I point my middle finger in Bryan Stinespring's general direction. If that guy sacks up and tells Frank, Mike and Billy to leave him alone or he walks, I think that we're better off than we are today where the guy is a virtual doormat of an OC that allows everyone in to be hands on in the kitchen.
Most likely worse than #4, more like he realizes an outsider may call him out for being incompetent in today's college football.
Let's get one thing straight. Frank Beamer is by no means out of touch with football today. All you have to do is look at what Saban is doing at Alabama. Saban has the exact same philosophy Beamer has. Run a ball controlled offense with a stout defense. Hell, the entire SEC is that way. See LSU, Florida, UGA. Those teams are winning with defense. The problem with VT's model is that Nick Saban's staff is a much better at recruiting and coaching. You can say that Beamer needs to replace some members of the coaching staff all you want, and I agree with that. Saying that Beamer is incompetent in today's college football is flat out wrong.
I'm sorry but BS, how on earth can our system be considered a ball control offense? Fundamentally we are in the pistol or shotgun 80% of the time and that's not a pilar of ball control. We run more deep routes than any other team, we've changed the offensive philosophy to mimick Auburn and Clemson, seriously what about our system speaks to ball control? Maybe 5 years or more ago you could have said that, but not now
Really? He coaches ST's and he has let it go to the gutter. 14, How can you say we do anything remotely like Bama, LSU or Fla.? I understand what you're getting at, but he is not implementing the same offense. We are running 5 different schemes now, which I think is really great, except we have not mastered any of them lately.
I disagree with you and that's ok.
This post was edited by SonofaHokie 20 months ago
Also he apparently wants his son as next HC and he will be the AD. According to some rumors. Which could explain somethings
Also he apparently wants his son as next HC and he will be the AD. According to some rumors. Which could explain somethings.
New topic ....THE INMATES RUN THE ASYLUM check it out
Beamerball now means horrible Special Teams and Offense, I'm pretty sure that is not how he wants to be remembered. If he makes big changes he can go out more like Tom Osborn or Bill Snyder....but right now he is much more bobby Bowden
The only thing most of us seem to agree on is that .....it's finally time for CFB to step away. The entire Offensive staff needs to be replacedand we desperately need to bring in someone that can and will crack the whip on this team! Coach Foster, for now I'll give him and his staff a pass, however there have been times this year that I've scratched my head there too!!!
And no need for a son to succeed his Dad in today's college football. I think it's worked for a short time in basketball though. IF and I mean a big IF it could ever have been successful, the Bowden's would have pulled that one off years ago. To me, that reeks of an old guy NOT willing to completely give up his control of a program!! Just plain selfishness. Of course, nobody wants to hear...GO AWAY! Look, we ALL are extreamly proud and thankful of what Weaver and Beamer have done for VT football. Some say they deserve and have earned the right to leave when they see fit. But they can't or refuse to see the obvious tail spin the very program they helped create has taken!!!
Also, Please, Please, Please stop with trowing the kids under the bus. If you're gonna stay until 2016, just grow a pair, man-up and say "I'm gonna fix this" say it....SAY IT. If not, I fear the next phase in this tail spin will be that the players "lay-down" on the coaches and no body in the Hokie Nation wants to see that happen! Nobody wants to admit that they've reached their ceiling, they've done all they can do. But wise is the man who recognizes that the end justifies the means. Race horses are put out to pasture when their time comes, yet still have some usefulness, in the work force we get to retire, and still have some wuality years to enjoy life's journey. Why is it that coaches (because of their ego's) refuse to let go??? Bear bryant passed away and after some others tried along came Nick Saban and once again there is a football God at Bama. Aside from the Sandusky story, Joe Pa was reduced to a mear figure-head on the sidelines. And we all felt sorry for Bobby Bowden the way he was eased out the dadgum door!!! I just hope it's not too late for some of our guys to exit with dignity!
very solid post
haha, you in the military?
Nope. Public Accounting....pretty much as far away from the military as you can get.
the military has those same courses on leadership that you just went through.
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