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Wonder where some of you believe our grads will go this year? Hopefully the combine is a good experience and launching pad for them as well.....
Scales- 7-FA i think he can be a good FB
Who am I missing that has a shot of hearing their name called?
Also, I may have missed it, but where did our undergrads get graded out?
Keep an eye on Painter. If he runs a sub 4.8 40 at the combine and shows well in all the other drills, he may pull a Duane Brown and sneak into the latter half of the first round. Somebody is going to fall in love with his combination of size, strength, and agility and draft him higher than he's predicted. 1st round may be stretching it but with the premium that's put on the OL position, seeing him go somewhere in the top 75 wouldn't surprise me. Then again, he needs to have a really good combine.
I dont see us having any 1st rounders but it isnt beyond the stretch of imagination that we could have 2 sneak into the 2nd. Davis and painter both bring good skill sets with awesome size and athleticism. Cant wait til the combine. When is VTs pro day?
The combine is over rated, only the media and fans really play it out like it matters. The combine is good for interviews and medicals, and if anything a good workout will get scouts to watch more film to see if their combine translates to the field.
I don't break down films or games, but will our guys show good tape from this past year? Will Painter? I think Duane is the only Hokie that seemed to go higher than I ever expected. I do agree that some of our guys have huge upside.
I agree that the combine is over-rated, but there always seems to be one or two payers who really show out and it moves them into the first round, like Dontari Poe last year. I would even say that DW's great combine could have been a big factor in him getting drafted in the first, His explosion is no joke... (no Dabo)
Res ipsa loquitur...Let the good times roll
True, but this one seems to be the type of exception because his combine was completely off the charts. I believe he ran a fast 40, correct? After that combine the people I follow said his film at Memphis was pretty bad, wasn't really a huge factor like you'd think.
Obviously people fall in love with the measurables (Al Davis), so clearly that can bump some guys up if their combine is insane, but in general the film will show if a guy can play football. So it's true that some guys benefit, but smart franchises won't fall for it.
There was some guy from MD who was the big OL that ran a great combine a few years back(Campbell?). He was talked up by the media as a guy whose stock rose the most, but a few months later he got drafted maybe in the 4th round? There's generally a reason you don't hear about these big time combine guys until now.
Ya, I wonder if the Raiders will just pick the fastest player available with each pick this year as an ode to Al.
Ya that's what I'm saying though, usually there is one or two guys who have that crazy combine and sneak into the first round. Also, the reason why GMs get fired.
Davis was shown, in one article about the East West Shrine game, to be one of the top three "DROPPERS" in evaluators minds. Said he did not run good patterns, did not adjust to the ball well and was not a "natural" receiver. I do not think he will go that high. He is a great athlete, but not a great football player.
Look out for Tweedy!! Probably won't be drafted but i think he'll end up on a roster as ST ace.
Nonsense. Please see Adam Archuleta, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Mike Mamula, and even Chris Johnson.
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Not surprised. He was never very good at playing the ball in the air or timing his jump. I don't think I saw him use that 44 inch vertical but once or twice. Half the time he had jumped about 6 inches off the ground or not at all when the ball got there.
I don't know if that's something he can be taught or not, but if so it sure didn't happen while he was here.
My argument is that the physical stuff at the combine isn't as important as us fans and media make it, it's not my opinion. The combine will open up the eyes of scouts and they will then go back and watch the film to see if it translates to the football field. So, if a guy has a better than expected workout (Ryan Mathews), then his stock can clearly rise, but that's because he already has good film. Workout warriors with bad film don't enhance their stock like we'd think, and I mentioned the OL Campbell from MD a few years ago.
Chris Johnson's speed clearly got him into that first round, but it wouldn't have happened if his film and production wasn't there. Anything related to Al Davis needs to be thrown out, didn't we all make fun of him for it? There are exceptions to the rule, but I am not speaking of exceptions. Guys will rise and fall in the off season, and that's based on film study, interviews, etc. We can all point out examples like a Dontario Poe, but when we have exceptions then it more-so proves the over-ratedness of the event. Just watch how the media gets into it and all the coverage, then see where guys get drafted.
Painter's film is good too. He's going to go higher than folks are projecting right now.
Look for Tweedy to actually get drafted. He will run a fast 40 and his ST film is better than anyone else in the country. If he can show the scouts he can move around in coverage good enough to be a backup, he will get drafted 6th round. Somebody is not going to wait until the 7th for this playmaker which is what he is.
did tweedy get invited to the combine?
No, but we have heard that NFL teams have been calling his Dad all year.
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