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I say not.
I think so. Up until last night they had the best resume in college football, by far.
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Yes. One loss should not define them. They got worked, but beat OU, Stanford, Miami, Michigan St, Michigan, and USC. They're a top 5 team IMO. A team like TAMU is very hot and probably could beat anyone right now, but they still had two losses: to UF and LSU who both lost their bowl games to ACC and Big East teams. I guess it depends on how you interpret the rankings. I like to look at the overall body of work rather than how well a team played a particular week.
Yes. They are much better than what we saw last night. They just didn't show up.
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That would be a resounding NO!
Up until last night they had played nobody of any real substance (BYU, Navy, BC, Pitt,the train wreck that Kiffin made USC, a handful of Big !0 teams that couldn't even make their own conference championship game and Oklahoma who got smoked by aTm in their bowl). The only team they played that was any good at all was Stanford who got absolutely hosed by the officials.
Their ranking was pure and simple media hype. That might continue and thay might be ranked in the preseason top 10 but the question was did they deserve to be. No, they did not deserve to be on that field last night and thew wuill not deserve to be in preseason top 10's
Agree. Last night was more about Alabama than it should be about ND deserving a shot to play in the NC. Remember last year's NC game? Alabama worked LSU, the team that beat them at home during the regular season. Some coaches and teams are better at 40 days off than others.
I sort of figured this would be the narrative for today, but UF had a slim chance to be in this game if ND lost to USC, and you saw how they got blasted against, wait for it.....a Big East team ranked in the 20's.
College football is an interesting game with the layoff. My wife beat me in bowl pick'em by choosing the cities she'd rather live in, I on the other hand went with the Vegas spread. Go figure.
I would think we would show a little more sympathy for a team that didn't show up in a post season game?
I think they deserved to be there, but remember they were the 4th best undefeated team before Bama, Oregon and KSU lost. We all knew they have to be perfect to beat Bama, and they couldn't tackle at all last night. I didn't like the throw the ball mentality either, think they should of ran a lot more from the beginning.
Alabama just showed that they are head and shoulders above everybody else in college football. Saban always ALWAYS has his team ready to play no matter the stage. Alabama came out last night and executed perfectly. No stupid penalties, in fact, no penalties at all. Every player on the same page and a cohesive game plan. Just awesome to watch.
ND is a good team in it's own right and did everything they needed to to deserve their ranking. Alabama is just way better than them and the rest of us.
Nope, and I knew they did not belong in the game last night. The Pitt, Purdue and BYU games told me all I need to know about that squad
They definitely deserve to stay in the top 5, even though to me they didn't pass the eye test, they played a decent schedule and didn't lose.
Personally I would not have put either them or Florida in the title game as it was clear both teams were really closer to a typical 2-3 loss team but had had all the breaks go their way. I wasn't at all surprised that ND was overmatched after seeing them struggle to out away BYU and Michigan, and almost lose to Pitt and USC without Barkley. Florida struggled to pull away from Vandy, Missouri, Ole Miss, and needed a complete meltdown from freaking UL-Lafayette in the last couple minutes to avoid a huge upset. They weren't that good.
I didn't foresee Louisville handling them like that, but both UF and ND were about the worst top 3 teams I'd ever seen. I would personally put UGA, Oregon, Stanford above ND and Florida.
I think they are really the number 7 or 8th best team in the nation.
That's what the eye told me all year honestly. However, they beat a BCS team in Stanford and went undefeated. If Alabama is the best team in America, then everyone is supposed to lose to them. A think a small playoff, and one starting a few weeks after the season will give more realistic results.
We make too many rash decisions on one game. What other team looked unbeatable in the bowl season? Texas A&M did, but A&M lost to Florida, the same Florida that got blasted by Louisville. Should we knock Florida out of the top 10 too? You see, we can play 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon and basically not have a National Champion. Anything can happen in one game, but 40 days off and a prepared team that Saban brings in is a testament to him and his coaching, his players, his methods, etc. LSU didn't even score last year against him, think about that.
^Texas A&M's loss to Florida was the first game of the year with a new QB starting. They outplayed Florida most of the game but turnovers lost the game for them. It was pretty much the same story vs. LSU. That's not at all the same thing as getting blown off the field like ND did against Alabama. You gotta look at how and why they lost too, not just that they lost in general.
In their close wins, ND struggled even more than A&M did in their two losses, and often against way worse teams (Michigan, BYU, Pitt). The difference was they got bailed out by a kicker missing a chipshot fg or the other team just not being that good.
Given how both of their seasons went I would take A&M over ND in a heart beat.
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Absolutely. I have a cat that is calmer then they were. They were numb for a good part of the game.
What about A&M's games against Ole Miss and La Tech? They had to come back in the 4th quarter against Ole Miss and almost blew it against La Tech.
The game was so bad it screamed "Hurry up playoff format".
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And although A&M lost 2 games by 3 and 5 pts. they still did something no one else did....beat Bama and on their home field to boot. And then they gut stomped Oklahoma.
A & M lost their first game to the Gators by 3. Keep in mind, they have a brand new coach, R-Fr QB and new conference.
Yes without a doubt. They aren't great but definitely top 10...had a very good résumé.
I disagree, Florida, LSU, A&M, uGA, bama, oregon, and stanford all had better resumes, Even with losses, they didn't play the service academies or pitt or purdue or wake or the mormons. Their resume sucked and the BcS can't end soon enough
How is UGA's resume better? They played Buffalo, GA Southern, FL Atl, GT, and only had to play Auburn and Ole Miss from the SEC West. Stanford lost to a 7-6 Washington team. LSU's OOC was Washington, Idaho, North Texas, and Towson. Oregon lost to a Stanford team that Notre Dame beat. Notre Dame was a flawed team, but so are all the other teams on your list. Even the hottest team, A&M had two losses going into the bowl. I have a hard time believing anyone would pick a team over an undefeated Notre Dame to play in the MNC.
I totally agree, but the blowout part is a product of the bowl system. A team that was thisclose to being in the NC possibly, UF, got housed by a Big East team ranked in the 20's, that lost to Rutgers. I'm just pointing out that we jump to conclusions on one game, and this was about Bama's NFL looking players and their coaching, it's what a Saban team does when they have 40 days off to win a NC. It's almost unfair.
The BCS has created a system where the best season resume and relative results gets a shot at the NC. It's not the NFL where the team playing the best will win the Super Bowl. It's really a different form of "the best team". From what we saw after the bowl season, teams like Oregon, Bama, Louisville, and A&M looked unbeatable.
The current system is the good and the bad of the sport, it rewards a "season long" accomplishment, not necessarily the "best team". We all know this, because there is no playoff so we need to accept the system for what it is. We can have debates on who looks the best, but that's not what college football is about. So dropping ND out of the top 10 because they got blasted by a team is not giving Alabama the credit they deserve.
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