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While frustration has run over what are true feelings on why it seems VT has gotten soft? Concern of mine I would like to be answered if possible. I know with emotions of board you guys probably will restrain.
Also please if we get replies peeps please be respectable.
I will answer this to the best of my knowledge.
Our blocking philosophy and the technique we use up front would have to be the biggest factor. When you are bucket stepping and taught to break down and punch in the open field instead of running through people, the OL will appear to be soft. We try to use positioning, while sacrificing movement up front. For example, if we are running at outside zone play and a guard has a tackle in a true 3 technique, (In between the guard and tackle) his job is to get wider than the outside shoulder of the DT and seal him inside. If the guard gets outside position, even if he gets driven 5 yards into the backfield, he technically did his assignment. Now our RB should be able to get outside on the play but what if they happened to blitz on the play side? What if the DE comes free and gets into the backfield? Now that DL that has tons of penetration stops any chance at a potential cutback lane, which is a huge part of the zone running scheme. This is why on some of our plays it looks as is if the entire DL is in our backfield making the tackle and all of OL are moving backwards. It is strictly positioning over movement and physicality.
Now let's take a look at the Pitt zone blocking scheme. We will take the same situation with the guard against a 3 technique on a wide zone play. The guard will take a step at (Not outside of) the outside shoulder of the DT. If the DT is really concerned about keeping outside leverage, the guard will simply take him where he wants to go and wash him outside. This same idea is happening with the rest of the OL. The RBs job is to simply find a lane to run. Even if the play is designed to go outside, the guard might drive the 3 technique really wide and the backside guard might be able to seal the backside 1 technique (DT lined up in between the guard and center) which would turn an outside zone play into an inside zone play as the center would be releasing on the play side backer. The goal is to be able to seal the defender but if the defender wants to run down the line to keep his leverage, you keep taking him that way. The first step is a much more aggressive step that allows for movement. As I said in another thread, it is very difficult to move a DL when taking a lateral or sometimes slightly backwards first step, which is a bucket step. Now let's take that same example as before again. Lets say the play side 3 technique runs down the line to keep his gap. Now the 1 technique also keeps his gap and runs down the line. The backside LB and backside DE are now in a position of vulnerability. They have to crash down the line as well or else their will be a big cutback lane in the 1 and 3 holes but if they do that really well, the RB can cut back all the way to the 5 hole or backside C gap and it will be one-on-one with either a safety or sometimes a CB with lots of open space to work with. If that player is not making the tackle one-on-one, we have to bring more help in the box to keep backside contain or our LBs have to keep from reading and attacking on the play side. This opens up the actual play side running for these zone plays being used. It also is opening up the passing game because we are bringing more people in the box to stop the run. Pitt, very similar to Miami last year was using a combination of man and zone blocking in the game. Their zone blocking had man principles in it so often times it was very hard to tell which one they were doing, which makes it very hard on our LBs to get a good read. To see a great example of how movement on the play side, opens up backside cuts take a look at the linked video... however painful that might be. Go to the 7 second mark and take a look at how play side movement opens up the backside.
I believe that our offensive technique has really hurt our DLs ability to be prepared for physical and aggressive zone or even man blocking OLs. Our DL is playing against our OL all spring and all preseason in preparation for the season. Our scout team is not able to properly replicate a technique that is far different than what they have been taught and recruited to do.
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Thanks Shabutie. That was basically all I was asking. Very concerning to me also. Cause in both trenches I feel a lack of physical play.
Great job as usual Shabutie. Thanks for this write-up.
Shabutie, how prevalent is our OL philosophy in college and the pros? Has anyone implemented our techniques successfully while also maintaining the mean streak you'd expect from a dominate OL?
Oh man, so now our crap OLine is turning our Defense into crap. Newsome's a freaking virus. He's spreading through the whole Hokie Football program.
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This is not a one game tantrum that we are throwing. I know I may have went a little overboard with it too but we have had these games/discussions every year now for quite a few years. This team will never win a MNC as long as Newsome is coaching the OL. I also would like to see a real OC hired but we would have a tremendous improvement with a good OL hire.The people with the big money need to let the Administration know that they want Newsome gone.
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I am getting old but it seems to me we have had this same discussion for at least seven or eight years. Everyone seems to be on the same wavelength and that probably has a lot to do with the frustration. If this many Hokies see it a certain way why can't the leaders see it or if they do why has no action been taken.
I have for several years felt that somthing would change for the better at the end of the season and it didn't. This year I think it has to change or there will be an erosion of support that could actually harm our fb program.
It's almost insane for anyone to think think these feelings are isolated to the Pitt game or this season for that matter, as you've said, we've been talking about this for years.....
Its pretty obvious that we can't be consistent with this technique, and it amounts to squat in the redzone. We have some big strong boys up front. Let them fire off the damn ball and hit someone.
And along with Newsome there is another on the sidelines that needs to go too. We can take some of the money he makes in his "administrative" role to add to Newsome's salary and get a real Oline coach.
Zone blocking is used by almost every team in the NFL but the way we use our first step and attack, for lack of a better word, is much more conservative and more of a high school way of positioning.
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